Who Won the Presidential Debate, Obama or Romney?

Tell us who you think won Round 1 and why.

After months of stump speeches and negative ad campaigns, Americans were able to see the two presidential candidates face each other for the first time Wednesday night at the University of Denver.

The first of three debates focused on the economy and domestic policy, which many Americans say is a high priority.

Before the debate, many predicted the victory would go to President Obama.

"President Obama is the most gifted speaker in modern political history," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul to ABC in an effort to lower expectations about the Republican candidate's upcoming performance.

Comments like that led President Obama to respond with a milquetoast assessment of his own skills: "Gov. Romney is a good debater. I'm just OK," he said.

Post-debate, many analysts said that Governor Romney had given a solid performance, and that the President had appeared disengaged.

“Romney was able to out-Obama Obama,” said one CNN panelist.

Others, like former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich, criticized Romney for not providing specifics on how he would pay for tax cuts and replace Obamacare.

So tell us in the comments, who do you think gave the better debate performance, and why?

Belle (Orchid Lady) October 11, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Hmm, it seems my comments are pending approval also?
Mark Paxson October 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM
There are probably a lot of good things that could be said about Mitt Romney, but "man of character" isn't one of them, given his shameless lies in the debate. It was one thing when it was his commercials and not actually his words. It was one thing when it was other Republicans spreading the lies. But, when he let those lies come out of his own mouth in the debate ... it was another thing entirely. Man of character? Not even close. He has demonstrated for years that he will say or do anything he believes is necessary to get elected. That's not character.
Sharon Salisbury October 12, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Thanks to Belle and Ricardo. I am on a desktop and cannot find any way to stop the influx of "noreply" from this thread, which has become tedious at best. For a couple of folks, I would urge you to get a blog or write a book. This is starting to look like the Sorcerer's Apprentice scene from Fantasia. Belle...are you really an orchid expert? Because I have a couple of questions...do we know how to contact people "off-post"? Thanks to Tony for his comment.
Rico October 12, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Belle, I don't own a tablet or smartphone. The stop following option is not available on a PC either. The only thing that we can do is to keep deleting the email notifications until the thread retires. It's kinda like the dog that constantly barks day and night up here, hopefully the owners will move away or the dog will eventually die. In the meantime, we just have to "deal with it".
Jane Gray October 12, 2012 at 03:44 AM
Belle, I see you post more for directions on here than any comments. We do a lot of posting, that is what it is for,,,,,,,silly. I posted a full letter from Mrs Romney, and that took a lot of comment slots, but hey, you use yours to ask how to do this and that. Informing others is what I like best, even if Masi doesn't like what I write about, I have some opinions,,,,,,,right now it is that Biden is a cold, smirking, smug, child snickering, rude person,and I am so glad I can vote for Ryan,,,,,,he tried so hard to be polite to the rediculosly rude Biden. Jane ( Belle, this is a place for posting comments, there is not a limit.)
Mariel Martin October 12, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Gov. Romney has done a very good job in Massachusetts with job creation, budget control, and an educational system number 1 in the nation--what did you say he was lying about? If you really want to see where "all the way" with Obama will take us read where he has already taken us without your even knowing it in "Chronicles of Corruption" by Tom Fitton and see the movie "2016: Obama's America." These will give you some researched, investigated, and proven facts that the mainstream media has failed to bring to our attention. Get informed and make your decision on a broad range of information instead of sound bites.
Jane Gray October 12, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Sharon, While I respect your right on a blog about Romney and why he is going to win,,,,,and your right to talk about Orchids completely off topic, I also respect my and others rights to talk about the TOPIC,,,,,, and I do write a blog for Patch. I also can comment on the political subjects, as well as your Orchid problems, I have one that has bloomed over and over,,,,just a half cup warm water once a week should do fine as well as fertilizer for Orchids at Home Depot. jane
Jane Gray October 12, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Ric, I know that Romney went back and said it did not come out right, just like so much of what you have to say on here. Calling people a coward is easy on line, it is too a persons face that takes courage,and you would not. As you blast away at Romney, I am sure he is getting more votes as you post this drizzle. jane (it takes a real man to admit his mistakes).
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 12, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Jane, I have already commented on this thread to my little hearts desire. I no longer wish to beat this horse. I'm sorry you showed up late to comment, some of us have moved on. I have no beef with the content of your posts or opinions. I just wanted to stop getting them in my e-mail, if I'm interested in checking back to see what people ate saying I'd prefer to do it manually.
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 12, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Ricardo and Sharon, you have to sign in first, go to the article (not the comments for the article) and then scroll down to just before the comments begin, and it should say how many comments are on the thread. To left of that (when signed in) you should see an option to stop following or getting updates about it. If not, after you sign in, at the top of the page on the right hand side you should see your name. To the immediate right of that you should see a little arrow if you hover over your name with the cursor, and it will give you options to chose from. Hope that helps. Sharon, no I am not an orchid expert, but orchids are my hobby. If you want to ask me any orchid questions I can try to help. Use the search bar on the Patch page (top right) and search for "Sound off" and ask me on that thread so we can leave this thread for political debate. Belle
Sharon Salisbury October 12, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Dear Jane, Don't recall naming anyone in my short post and I asked Belle for a way of contacting her off-site. Thanks for the orchid tip.
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 12, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Sharon- type in "sound off, Napa, here's a place to rant" we can talk about what ever we wish with out disturbing folks here. :)
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 12, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Aww heck, here I'll just post the link, and I already posted a comment for you regarding orchids. http://napavalley.patch.com/articles/sound-off-napa-here-s-a-place-to-rant#comments_list
Ric B October 13, 2012 at 03:11 PM
@ jane- do you know what filibustering means? Well that is what you did. It would be one thing if it was YOUR letter, but really Mrs.Romney's? Do you,or anyone else really expect a candidates' wife to do otherwise? In regards to your assessment of Biden, I doubt you are objective to begin with! My mother taught me to not let a liar go unanswered, especially if it's to your face. As far as I'm concerned, it's far more, how did you put it "disrespectful" to lie,boldfaced, to the American people, on national t.v. no less, than interrupting someone who filibusters(I'm sure you can relate) a line of "malarkey" for minutes on end. Vice President Biden is speaking from decades of experience, of "being in the room", including with President Reagan, which called me oldfashioned counts for a whole heck of alot more than some upstart,mealy-mouthed,cruel to seniors,rude to womens' self determination to decide for themselves,hard hearted to poor children(his budget cuts to foodstamps/medicaid) snake in the grass and speak with fork tongue, who takes $$$ millions from corporate America, wallstreet financiers, and pushes his selfish religious agenda onto everyone else! And yes, as a gay man & veteran I would say this to his face!
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 13, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Who decided not to allow my posts to Sharon and Ricardo? Were there 'flags' on them? How can giving advice on how to stop getting e-mail alerts and Orchids, be a problem????
Louisa Hufstader October 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM
Belle, I don't see anything from you "hitting the screen" in Napa, but this is one of the regionally posted articles and I think someone else is moderating. You know your thoughts are always welcome here and I can't imagine what you could have said to be flagworthy; could this be a glitch?
Louisa Hufstader October 14, 2012 at 12:43 AM
(2) The other, perhaps more likely possibility is: It's Saturday and so there is a little longer lag time in approving posts on this moderated thread. I look forward to reading your comments soon, Belle.
Rico October 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Belle, The Patch did not delete any of my posts. But I tried to unfollow this thread by clicking on that button, it did not do anything at all. The only way to not get email from an individual post from the Patch is to choose not to get any at all. I have done it before on a different computer that I still have , it worked! They will show a message that they are sorry to see you go. Like I said, for now, we have to "deal with it" or do away with all email notifications, those are the choices.
Rico October 14, 2012 at 01:08 AM
I just thought of something, it may be possible to not get email responses to a post if the VERY first time a person posts on a particular thread, they decline email notifications. I don't know for sure, but it is too late for most of us now. Each site has different methods of doing things, and sometimes even the site administrators don't really know what is going on, for they are only human. With computers, sometimes it is up to the users to figure out how they "do their do" and to make them "do what we need them to do". Always learning something new every day, by trial and error. We go as we go.
Eddie Munster Cheese October 14, 2012 at 01:27 AM
I all else fails Bella, you can put Patch on email block (sorry Patch editors, nothing personal).
Sharon Salisbury October 14, 2012 at 03:52 AM
Belle, thanks. I will talk to you later.
Sharon Salisbury October 14, 2012 at 03:55 AM
Belle, I am seeing your posts. I think Louisa may be right, but what do I know.
Carlos Villatoro October 14, 2012 at 06:15 PM
To stop following comments you'll just need to log in to your account on Patch.com and edit your "Following" settings in your profile. To do so, please follow these steps: 1. Go to http://www.patch.com 2. Select your desired location on the right 3. If you are not signed in, click Sign In at the top right and enter your login credentials 4. Hover over your name in the top right and click Account 5. Click Following on the left under More Stuff 6. Click Stop Following under any article
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Thanks Louisa and Sharon! :) I forget sometimes that people go out and do things on Fridays and Saturdays, and were most likely not putting moderating comments as their weekend priority. I need to learn to be more patient ;) Thank you again.
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 14, 2012 at 06:46 PM
:) Thanks!
Belle (Orchid Lady) October 14, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Thanks Eddie. I figured out how to stop getting posts from specific threads. I was trying to help Ricardo and Sharon do what I did, but I guess I wasn't much help. Have a great Sunday!!!
Rico October 14, 2012 at 07:02 PM
Thank you Carlos for the clear directions. I did what you said and clicked on Stop following, I will see if that worked. I already tried it on the original article and it did not work, but maybe this will. BTW, when clicking on stop following under more stuff , there was no change or indication that I had actually successfully done that, like a change after I clicked to start following again. So, if this does indeed stop following, is their a way to start following again ? Thanks again.
Sharon Salisbury October 15, 2012 at 02:42 AM
Something is seriously amiss with the order in which messages come in causing problems. But thanks to all about how to get out of the treacle.
Sharon Salisbury October 15, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Well, that was interesting. I did exactly as Carlos and probably hundreds of others told me to do and I was already logged in. So that wasn't the problemo. Seems it was because I wasn't at the right "place" and only got there thanks again to Carlos. Once I typed in the address/ whatever, I was able to find what everyone was talking about. Wheezers. Thanks all. Please god, let this work.
Louisa Hufstader October 16, 2012 at 04:49 PM
New question from Carlos: Do you support your candidate unconditionally, or does tonight's debate have the potential to influence your vote? http://napavalley.patch.com/articles/point-blank-obama-vs-romney-round-2-does-it-matter Let's hear it!


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